Clouds and Shadows

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Clouds and Shadows

by juliepenkova ^Pro @ 2009-11-01 – 21:25:56

Is it true that we are unable to see our central weaknessess
Are they covered by layers of clouds and shadows ?
Others may see them quite clearly....
Part of the struggle of heart and mind is thus centred on illustion and perception
even when confronted with evidence right infront of our eyes, something refuses to acknowledge
reality!!
Seeing directly into our own nature is always just a step away~ hidden in plain sight...

Do you feel to search is reality or to just accept is the key

Here is a quote from the Tao:

The Seeking in Everyone
Be violent and balance is lost
Be angry and intelligence is forgotten
Be forecful and oneness is broken
People cannot be brought to thoughts
so thoughts are brought to people
Do not be forceful with thoughts
but bring and offer them gently
so that the seeking in every one is not disturbed....
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- sarangijibt
- 2009-11-02 @ 10:02:04
The first step is to search for the right partner.
Once you've got him/her and try to be a good partner yourself, giving advise and listening to his/her advice, when it is offered gently then many wrong perceptions and bad habits are realized and erased before they become dangerous, before balance is lost, before intelligence is forgotten, before the oneness of love is broken.
- - juliepenkova ^Pro
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  - 2009-11-03 @ 08:40:29
  It is quite often through strangers we see how others
  perceieve us... as often those who love us are blind
  to our imperfections and choose to ignore them because
  of love!!
  I feel we must find our inner self by ourself!!
  It is said that the human heart contains knowledge of
  everything in the universe but their are veils that cover
  this knowledge in psychologal terms.
  It is dominant illusions or network of defense mechanisims
  that keep us from seeing clearly.
  I do feel those we love will support us if it is with
  sincere intention, it is a need, a support protection...
  we must find self realization because the "I" wants to!!
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- Bushka ^Pro
- Bushka
- 2009-11-02 @ 11:36:34
Search for self knowledge and self undertan is lifelong; total self-knowledge/understanding is impossible - always relative...because the self CANNOT see the 'self' objectively....
- - juliepenkova ^Pro
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  - 2009-11-03 @ 08:51:38
  In Jungian psychology, the segment of the unconscious where variations on the so called "dark theme" is referred
  to as the "Shadow", the self-sustaining illusions that keep us from seeing the truth about our behaviour.
  But intent when sincere is an infinite organising power!!x
  - - Bushka ^Pro
    - Bushka
    - 2009-11-03 @ 12:59:33
    That is quite an interesting 'take' on the 'Shadow'.... A complex concept/reality which is always lurking somewhere. Have you read Jung on 'The Shadow'?
    - - juliepenkova ^Pro
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      - 2009-11-03 @ 14:30:57
      I have read many articles by different authors on
      "The Shadow" including Jung!!
      Via many psychology books in the past, in particular I found "The Shadow Dance" interesting!!
      It makes one look at our patterns of behaviour in life.
      One quote:
      "The psychological rule says when an inner situation
      is not made concious, it happens outside as fate...
      that is to say when an individual remains undivided and does not become concious of his opposite, the world must
      perforce, act out the conflict and be torn in opposing halfs"...
      It expresses we all have a shadow and a confrontation with the shadow is essential for self awareness, we can not learn about ourself if we do not learn about our shadow...
      This is were taking responsibility for our lives comes
      in to play... and when we deny this we blame others
      as a release mechanisim and even want to harm those
      who we feel are harming us. quite often we attack through
      the mirrors of other people.
      To want to confront self can be very painful and challenging and a very difficult thing to do...
      we need to be patient with ourselves!!
      And hope in doing so to not drain others whom we may lean on for support and to not blame others for our own errors!!
      - Bushka ^Pro
        
        Bushka
        
        2009-11-03 @ 15:17:10
        
        I recognise the first part..."The psychological rule....to br torn into opposing halves." as written by Jung. What follows is obviously a commentary...good one..on the Shadow....'Taking responsibility for our own lives...' does not ring tru to Jung!
        However, the Acrhitype of The Shadow is quite a complex phenomenon which can...and often does...render us quite helpless....quite powerless.
        
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        juliepenkova ^Pro
        
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        2009-11-03 @ 15:58:15
        
        Indeed Bushka!!
        You are right the latter part of my comment was not
        Jung..it was from another article and my own humble
        opinion
        Another expression on this article which made me laugh
        was this....
        "Denial is pushing something out of your awareness.
        Anything you hide in the basement has a way of burrowing
        under the house and showing up on the front lawn
        ( By Howard Sasportas)
        The Article was by Rebeca.E.Eigen
        www.shadowdance.com
        (the left colum has many intersting and thought provoking articles including Jung!! X
        
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        Bushka ^Pro
        
        Bushka
        
        2009-11-03 @ 17:28:02
        
        I like that remark by Sasportas - That is putting the 'Shadow' into perpective....albeit humourously! That is precisely what can...and often does happen - wihout your knowing it....Amusing but quite scary...
        
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        juliepenkova ^Pro
        
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        2009-11-03 @ 18:58:53
        
        very much so Bushka!!
        It is scary and I know not a comfortable subject
        for many to discuss... I just find it all fascinating
        and scary
        Cheers Bushka X
        
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        Bushka ^Pro
        
        Bushka
        
        2009-11-03 @ 20:45:25
        
        Hugs! x
        
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- malakeas ^Pro
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- 2009-11-03 @ 01:14:26
I can tell you that I see my weaknesses loud and clear. Too much so at times. xx
- - juliepenkova ^Pro
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  - 2009-11-03 @ 08:58:23
  we all have our weaknesses and our strengths!!
  but suprisingly others see us different to how we see
  ourself!!
  There are people who bring out our positive energy
  and those who bring out our clouds and shadows!!
  What keeps us on an even keel is living within that
  uplifting energy X
  - - malakeas ^Pro
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    - 2009-11-03 @ 10:38:27
    I run away from those that bring shadows and clouds as I have had too much of that in the past. I much prefer the rainbows!
    - - juliepenkova ^Pro
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      - 2009-11-03 @ 10:50:20
      Very lovely too!!
      Fresh and pure cleansing X
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- tylluanpenry
- 2009-11-03 @ 09:07:50
There is the self that we see....
The self that others see...
And the self that our gods see...

IMHO of course....
- - juliepenkova ^Pro
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  - 2009-11-03 @ 09:24:11
  I like that!! X
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- bitsnpieces39
- 2009-11-14 @ 18:04:01
So much of our weakness is based on self perception and the unwillingness to accept that we could be wrong about something. Sometimes, reputations, entire careers, prestige and wealth is built around religiously following certain dogma or idealism.

When we realise we have been following the wrong direction is it easier to accept we have been wrong and gracefully let go of ALL the above and fade into obscurity, or is it human nature to put it to the back of our minds and ignore the glaring facts...

"The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd; indeed in view of the silliness of the majority of mankind, a widespread belief is more likely to be foolish than sensible."

Bertrand Russell
- - juliepenkova ^Pro
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  - 2009-11-14 @ 18:38:40
  We all have our comfort zones and in general want to
  get along harmoniously, ideals that we strive for, and yet despite our most valient efforts we continually come
  across problems and situations that puzzle us.
  When issues arrive that challenge us ahd hurt us,
  I do feel to let go is healthier then a festering heart
  but saying that to also reflect on matters and learn from them as we then choose to move on with renewed energy!!
  To face fear or upset can be hard but one can learn from these times too!!
  I never ignore the glaring facts ... but also have compassion to know others perceive matters differently...
  and respect here is the key!!
  Opinions are individual and life is too!!
  Dogma and idealism is sadly a mega part of a life covered
  in a multitude of veils!!
  
  Thank you!!
  - - bitsnpieces39
    - 2009-11-15 @ 15:36:46
    I wonder why it is that we continually come full circle on those issues that trouble us so, are we getting a glimpse of something, a chance to look at a problem, an opportunity to step out of our comfort zone and face up to something that might enlighten us in some way?
    
    We can only perceive matters in our own unique way, like you say, others are similar in this respect, but then wouldn't it be an unusual world if we all thought and behaved exactly the same?
    
    Thank you back
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