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@ 2009-11-03 – 19:43:15
Do you agree to call Christmas "Winter Festival" 
Does it not matter to you either way
Should we consider where Christmas originated...
Would you say from the Bible or Paganism
Should Christmas be replaced by a secular holiday
What about all the fun 
malakeas
Pro 
juliepenkova
Pro I do believe many enjoys the spirit of christmas,
many sadly do not like this time of year if they are alone
it makes them feel more alone!!
I personally like the getting together with family
and friends... and the fun too 
X
tylluanpenry
christmas can be christmas... the solstice can be the solstice or Yule... the main thing is to have fun. I hate bloody Winterval though... sounds like thermal underwear! 
juliepenkova
Pro 
yes winter thermal time
It is the P.C. aspect which is amuzing as everyone
will carry on saying "Merry Christmas"
I will xx
WildWitch
They called in that in Birmingham for a few years, everyone hated it, i always thought of some wonder duvet, extra thick with elements inside like an electric blanket kind of thing.
If i see this on the market now, i know one of you lot stole my idea and ill be after you
Christmas is already many different things to many people,some religious,some not. Why give it an artificial name? I do not think the word offends anyone so keep it as it is.
If not will Easter become Bunnytime or Eggster?
Have fun!
juliepenkova
Pro exactly Alan!!
All this P.C sometimes goes to far 
My partner as you know is Muslim and he expects his
Christmas pressie and a ho-ho-ho and in the same respect
I celebrate Ede and enjoy the food
I believe we should each respect all different festivals
in the spirit of one... and in a community spirit!!
Merry Christmas time !! X
My path is really eclectic, a bit from here and some from there. I am not offended by Christmas and in fact celebrate the holiday with my family. Some take offense as they associate it with Christianity only and that is their choice. As time goes my I see the time of year more as Yule as it fits me present path and really my past path much better. I would not like a generic name put on the day.
juliepenkova
Pro
Saturnalia~ beginnig of winter solstice celebration.
It is expressed that Christmas celebration is not
entirely Christian anyway!!
We presume it is and in actual fact has its roots more
with pagan origin!
It is very comlex how Christmas actually came to be!!
But the main value I feel is the gatheing of friends and family!!
I too do not like the P.C.element, to avoid saying
Merry Christmas... I love this time of year
with fun
Christmas is what it is - different things to different people. We all call it different things, we all celebrate it different ways, we celebrate it for different reasons - religious, traditional etc - but at the end of the day the best part about Christmas it that it brings people together and thats what I think people should care about the most 
juliepenkova
Pro That sums it up beautifully!!
Thank you X
WildWitch
As a Pagan i dont celebrate Christmas, but do mark Yule as a special time for me and the kids.
The Christmas festival does originate from the Pagan celebration (though they really dislike being reminded of that). It marks the changing of the season and we choose to celebrate that rather than the Christian Christmas which these days is all about greed and want, nothing to do with religion it seems.
Over time all of the Pagan festivals seem to have been adopted and adapted by Christianity, not only Yule as Christmas, but Ostara as Easter, Lughnasdh as Harvest Festival and Samhain as All Saints day. Im sure Imbolc is something to Christianity as well, but i cant remember what they call it.
juliepenkova
Pro I knew it orignated from paganisim...
but am surprised at how most christians ignore or do not
know this....
yule is lovely
It does all originated from pagan roots and surprises me
why christians have such distaste to it... 
Thank you for explaning X
WildWitch
I dont know why they deny where the festival actualy originates from. My guess is that as Christianity spread to the Pagan countries, the stories of Paganism being evil spread too.
Most fairy tales suggest witches to be the evil ones that cook children alive, poision young maidens with dodgy apples and infected needles. They make out we are ugly. All this is to deter children from wishing to know more about their Pagan roots. Our ancestors came from Pagan and Druid communities or the mystical teachings of further afield. There is even a strong connection between Hinduism and Paganism.
Im not sure why they confuse Satanism with Paganism either when the two are nowhere near connected.
im not being funny change x.mass to winter fesitval is perfectic, it has been called christams for houndras and hundras of years, people come to this contry and there belifes we dont change them, people shoulnt try and change belifes and traditions that have been the same for so long, what would father cristmass be called? x.mass card? its soo perfetic this country is a joke!!!!!
juliepenkova
Pro Hello!!
It is a matter that has caused many to feel annoyed!!
Christmas is a festival that actually originates
from Pagan times... and has altered in many ways
through the centuries...
People like to keep their traditions...
as long as the spirit of it is shared with love
within your own personal way and with those who bring you
joy... that is what counts!!
Thank you for commenting X
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Christmas should be a celebration of friends and families coming together to enjoy one another simply because they can. Forget the gifts and all the false charm the season brings out and vow to be good to one another each and every day.
xx
I would call that the spirit of living.